On 10/07/06, conor lynch <beardynoses@hotmail.com> wrote:

Have to say I agree with Eoin on this one. I think people will give us money
no matter what we're collecting for.

>From: "Eoin O' Callaghan" <supernova6@gmail.com>
>To: Drama-committee@lists.redbrick.dcu.ie
>Subject: Re: [Drama-Committee] Charity Bag Pack... VOTE NEEDED!!!
>Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:56:07 +0100
>
>Hey all,
>
>          Musical in aid of charity, eh? Well, in theory, it's a really
>worthwhile idea, i.e. student's working for the sake of others, etc. It is
>admirable if a little idealistic. Firstly, the musical is going to cost
>LOTS
>and LOTS of money. Even if we secure sponsorship for it, you have to plan
>for a worst case scenario (think last year and all the sponsors who WERE
>going to come on board). This leaves us with a potential show that'll make
>a
>loss or, an this is at best, break-even. As Susan said, this is a week long
>event and not a once-off like Style Soc's Fashion Show. In order to make a
>profit, we need 'X' amount of people coming to see us for every performance
>and, once again, we'll have to err on the side of caution regarding this
>matter after what happened with Guys and Dolls.
>
>         Secondly, I don't see why we have to tell people we're a DRAMA
>society who'll donate their profits to charity at the end of the year. In
>my
>eyes, we ARE a charity at the moment and have no money. I really can't see
>anything wrong in asking people to donate money to as seeing as we have
>none. Anyway, I have seen loads of youth groups and community groups
>collect
>money for themselves and there's nothing wrong with that. Instead if
>putting
>others first, I think, especially starting off the year 8K in debt, we
>should put ourselves first for a change.
>
>         I don't agree with the society having to give our profits away at
>the end of a year. All the money that is left over at the end of the year
>is
>put back into the society anyway and it should stay like that. Throwing OUR
>money at charities isn't the greatest way of endearing ourselves to the
>SPC,
>especially the following year when we tell them that we want to apply for
>certain equipment and we need a grant to pay for it.
>
>         I may sound like a certain Mr. Ebenezor Scrooge here but to be
>honest, I think doing a musical in aid of charity is a bad idea. However, I
>see no reason why we can't get into bed with
>
>
>On 7/10/06, Susan <suz143@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Hey Guys!
>>
>>Here's my stance on the prospect of doing the musical for charity. *Im not
>>against it -* because I really do think that we need to do more as a
>>society (and a college) for a worthwhile cause and hey! if people are more
>>likely to buy tickets to a charity event -  *bring on the cause*! But I
>>thought i'd bring up a few negatives.....just to play devils advocate
>>(....steve...*dont hurt me*...lol)
>>
>>1. In order for it to be a successful musical, we need to kinda break even
>>or come pretty close am I right? If all our takings are going to charity,
>>*how do we cover our asses as far as costs go?* I'd like to think that we
>>can fund the musical purely from sponsorship (cuz thats the optimistic
>>view
>>of a sponsorship officer dontcha know!) and Grant Aps but it might not be
>>possible. I dont wanna leave next years committee in anywhere near the
>>financial situation we're in now - just because we feel like upping
>>our promotions and image with the use of a charity organisation. (Im
>>curious
>>to know Joey's views on this...) Plus - with the Helix already booked as
>>the
>>venue - this years musical is gonna be pretty tight financially!! Grant
>>Aps
>>taken into consideration...we're still gonna need a bit more.
>>
>>2. Do you think people at a bag-pack are gonna listen to how we're gonna
>>be donating money to charity - NEXT APRIL? They might just wanna know
>>about
>>right now.
>>
>>3. The Fashion Show (which did brilliantly...wish all our events could
>>mirror that success)lets face it, it was a one night event - it was style
>>socs BIG EVENT of the year and they spent alot of time planning it. The
>>musical is a 4 night & one matinee event - even if we do donate all the
>>money to charity - can we guarentee a big audience every night? I'd like
>>to
>>think that the musical requires ALL our attention....but truthfully...we
>>have alot of other stuff planned too!
>>
>>Okay those are my three main concerns. As co-producer, I realise alot of
>>this is gonna fall on my head if the musical puts us in another rut
>>financially - but I do believe that this is the year for change n' if the
>>committee feels that charity is the way to go - then Im willing go with
>>that.
>>
>>*Im also gonna hold off on voting until I hear everyones arguments...hehe
>>suspenseful eh?*
>>
>>**Steve* - if u get votes by text and phone - will you please keep me
>>updated??
>>
>>Ok- thanks for reading that novel guys!
>>Good luck bag-packing this weekend - *score one for the home team!*.....ok
>>this is what happens when Im in America for too long....sorry
>>guys....
>>
>>xoxo
>>Suz
>>
>>
>>  On 7/10/06, Stephen Grimes <stephen.grimes5@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >  Hey guys,
>>
>>I was trying to think of some selling points for the bag pack, because
>>from my experience of bagpacking (three years... grrr...) it is ALWAYS
>>necessary to seem like your doing it for a really justified cause.
>>
>>So I was thinking, (and I've discussed this with a few of you already),
>>that perhaps  we should do the musical this year in aid of some charity.
>>There are a few reasons for this.
>>
>>1.) We are non-profit making society, so why not give all our remaining
>>cash/funds away at the end of the year?
>>2.) Last year's musical lost money, but I think we've learned from these
>>mistakes and if we follow Style Soc's footsteps of a charity event, I
>>think
>>we will sell more tickets and thus make profit and therein 'raise money
>>for
>>charity.'
>>3.) In terms of bagpacking, we can say (honestly) 'Well, yes we are a
>>student organization, but at the end of the year we hold a charity
>>fundraiser show and donate all our funds to charity... blah blah blah.'
>>Realistically, this goes a long way in getting people to give more money
>>at
>>a bag pack.
>>4.) To emphisize, we are a non-profit organization and I see no reason why
>>not to do the musical in aid of charity, because 'in fairness' it will
>>most
>>likely be the last thing we do next year (like it was this year) and thus
>>the 'best time' to donate to charity.
>>5.) It will be ALOT easier for the PRO to sell the musical if its a
>>charity fundraiser.
>>6.) Lastly, after being on committee last year and hearing all the talk of
>>a charity fundraiser for 'this and that,' I was disappointed when we
>>failed
>>to deliver and I think its something that this years committee could work
>>to
>>improve/explore/whatever...
>>
>>Anyway, to sum up...
>>
>>Charity = Bums on seats + More Donations = Better show
>>
>>So in my thinking... we get a bigger better musical and the charity make
>>money... it is a win-win situation.
>>
>>Anyway, I wanted to open this up to discussion, and if people are in
>>favour/against to vote on it via e-mail. I would ask people to try and
>>limit
>>they're e-mails (cus we know how that turns out!)
>>
>>Anyway, my vote doesn't count (unless its a deciding vote) so...
>>
>>I'm opening it to discussion, by wednesday I would like to have the votes
>>in (bag pack is thursday)
>>
>>E-mail me with your votes:
>>Yes = Musical as charity fundraiser
>>No = Musical is NOT charity fundraiser
>>Spoil = Undecided in the matter
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Steve
>>
>>P.S. You may text me or call me with your vote too.
>>
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