[Drama-Committee] Bloody Meeting.
Right. We need to have a meeting, and soon AND we need 100% attendance for the first time this year. *prays for a miracle* So... Sunday night is no good, Panto rehearsals. Monday night is no good, Panto (and I gotta go to the launch of the DCU Strategy Plan in the Helix). I'm getting desperate here, there is much to be organised before we break up for Xmas, and I don't wanna spam the mailing list. Dave, you were talking about setting up a private forum, how is that going? Charlie, perhaps you can get in on that w/Dave? *screams and tears hair out* Bob -- Roibeard O Mhurcu # 54144094 CS2 Class Rep. DCU Drama, Chairman (Chairperson/Chairthing, y'know like, whatever). www.dcudrama.ie "Joey, you ever been in a cockpit before? Ever seen a grown man naked? Ever hang around the gymnasium?" "Joey, do you like movies about... Gladiators?" -Capt. Clarence Oveur-
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:07:09PM +0000, Roibeard O Mhurcu wrote:
I'm getting desperate here, there is much to be organised before we break up for Xmas, and I don't wanna spam the mailing list.
Is after the panto/party too late?
Dave, you were talking about setting up a private forum, how is that going? Charlie, perhaps you can get in on that w/Dave?
Will someone please explain to me why we need a forum and not a mailing list? Surely we'll have the same amount of traffic on the forum, as we do on the list. Am i missing something? --Eoghan
Dave, you were talking about setting up a private forum, how is that going? Charlie, perhaps you can get in on that w/Dave?
Will someone please explain to me why we need a forum and not a mailing
list?
Surely we'll have the same amount of traffic on the forum, as we do on the list. Am i missing something?
Yes you are missing something because you totally ignored my point at the last meeting. Mails come in to my inbox at a rate or approximatly 7 and hour, and It's gotten to the point my account is having to be emptied several times a week, meaning all mails have to be deleted and thus no record is being kept of what was decided. A board is logical, as it is dedicated to a single group and developements can be recorded and no mails missed. While you may not care about this, it is quite tiresome to have to delve through tons of tangents in an arseways order and then having to delete them, all this time missing information because one simply has too much bloody spam to get through. Not all of us have the luxuary of spending most of our college time on a computer in all fairness, and this committee has spent more mails then any other committee before it. A board will allow us to sort our conversations in a logical order, and seperate real issues from fleeting ones, and avoid the mirade of communication issues we have thusfar had. http://s13.invisionfree.com/DCU_Drama/ is registered with us, USERNAME: Admin Password: makeascene ~Non Curo Hombre.. Si Mentrum non habet, non est Poema!~
Yes you are missing something because you totally ignored my point at the last meeting. Mails come in to my inbox at a rate or approximatly 7 and hour,
Welcome to the Internet. ;) You're not the only one swimming in mail. Mine is organised just fine, it's all filtered away tidily. I'll happily help you set up procmail mail filters for RedBrick, if you like. :)
and It's gotten to the point my account is having to be emptied several times a week, meaning all mails have to be deleted and thus no record is being
I haven't deleted any mail for years. Use gmail or RedBrick, both will give you as much storage space as you like, and both support using a real (POP/IMAP) mail client.
kept of what was decided. A board is logical, as it is dedicated to a single group and developements can be recorded and no mails missed. While you may not care about this, it is quite tiresome to have to delve through tons of
Forums are incredibly tiresome. Compare the speed at which I can scan through my mail, switch messages, send a reply in a real client, and then how long it takes to do it on a forum in a browser. Treacle.
tangents in an arseways order and then having to delete them, all this time
A forum will not solve tangents, people will still make off-topic posts.
missing information because one simply has too much bloody spam to get through. Not all of us have the luxuary of spending most of our college time on a computer in all fairness, and this committee has spent more mails then any
I may spend most of my time at a keyboard, but I sure as hell don't spend it organising my mail. :)
other committee before it.
A board will allow us to sort our conversations in a logical order, and seperate real issues from fleeting ones, and avoid the mirade of communication issues we have thusfar had.
I really do believe a forum won't help with this. I know whats going on, all my mail is threaded. I can only suggest you start using a real mail client that supports threading... (Thunderbird, OS X Mail, or even gmail...) http://www.apple.com/pro/tips/mailthreading.html Apologies for the Apple point of view, (I realise it's quite useless to you :) but it's rather hard to find a page with an example of Thunderbird's threading. It does support it though. :)
http://s13.invisionfree.com/DCU_Drama/
is registered with us, USERNAME: Admin Password: makeascene
We're not going to start using a dodgy remotely hosted forum.
On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 11:18:53PM +0000, David Grimes wrote:
Yes you are missing something because you totally ignored my point at the last meeting.
I didn't ignore it. I answered it. And i'll do so again. Mails come into my inbox at a similar rate. I have work, redbrick, assorted mailing lists, and others.
Mails come in to my inbox at a rate or approximatly 7 and hour, and It's gotten to the point my account is having to be emptied several times a week, meaning all mails have to be deleted and thus no record is being kept of what was decided.
As for the space thing, you could always use GMail, or Redbrick, which will both prevent you from having to delete mails for a long period of time. I have all my drama mails that i've ever gotten on redbrick, and i'm not even using up 1/5th of my quota. There's also the list archives, which you can go read/search if you really want.
A board is logical, as it is dedicated to a single group and developements can be recorded and no mails missed.
To me, a board is not logical. Everybody has to read their mail, so why not let us deal with drama stuff at the same time? It's adding more unnessecary work ( going to one extra website to read a forum doesn't sound like much, but it's more than we need to do. ). I'm also less likely to check a board, than I am to check my mail. I check my mail on an hourly basis. I only do this because lots of other stuff comes into my mail at the same time. If drama moves away from that, it will be forgotten. Do I have something that'll notify me of new posts to it? Will i be able to read posts offline ( yes, believe it or not, i *DO* spend time off the internet. However, that's usually travelling between connections )? Can I have a sane user interface for a boards system that won't make me want to tear my hair out? The answer to all of these questions, is no. I would like to see anyone prove me wrong about them ( except possibly the last, but that's just m y point of view.
While you may not care about this, it is quite tiresome to have to delve through tons of tangents in an arseways order and then having to delete them, all this time missing information because one simply has too much bloody spam to get through.
In any sane mail client ( even the DCU webmail ), you can filter mail into seperate mailboxes. Even if your mails are coming in at the *shocking* speed of 7 per hour, that still leaves you 8 minutes to sort each mail, which is more than enough (:
Not all of us have the luxuary of spending most of our college time on a computer in all fairness, and this committee has spent more mails then any other committee before it.
I fail to see how boards have *anything* whatsoever to do with the amount of time one spends online. Unless some new technologies have been invented that I'm not aware of, one still has to be online to read a board. So what if we have more mails? Having a board will just mean we have more posts than any other committee.
A board will allow us to sort our conversations in a logical order, and seperate real issues from fleeting ones, and avoid the mirade of communication issues we have thusfar had.
Hang on. How will it manage that? Does it have a fleeting filter? (: How will it solve communication issues? We're just moving conversations to a more counter-intuitive medium.
http://s13.invisionfree.com/DCU_Drama/
is registered with us, USERNAME: Admin Password: makeascene
If the committee decide to go with a board, please for the love of god, host one ourselves. InvisionFree are horrible. --Eoghan, competitor for the Bob award for long emails
Dave, you were talking about setting up a private forum, how is that going? Charlie, perhaps you can get in on that w/Dave?
Will someone please explain to me why we need a forum and not a mailing list? Surely we'll have the same amount of traffic on the forum, as we do on the list. Am i missing something?
_private_ forum? For the committee? I'm dead against that. I already have to deal with gamessoc committee business on a forum, and it's incredibly annoying. I want drama communication in my email client, where it's fast, consistent with the rest of my communication, retrievable when I'm not connected, rapidly searchable, blah blah blah. If I thought about it some more, I'd come up with even more reasons. :P
participants (4)
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Charlie Von Metzradt -
David Grimes -
Eoghan Gaffney -
Roibeard O Mhurcu