Hi All, Just to clear a few things up. The way Stephen Brown invisages getting MiNDS> back up is in small steps with the ultimate aim of getting back everything we had. This will take time but we will be inching towards our goal all the time. The Plan is indeed to give us full root access but to put us behind a firewall. The first step will be just internal access from the CS department, then when the fire wall is inplace internal access in the college and then eventually full access. Telnet and FTP will probably come before any other outside access, i.e. www. The reason for this is that the college is liable for any thing that is said on a web page in the college. Before we rush into any thing I think we should give the CS department the chance to work their magic. In time all this will die down and when Dr. Smyth forgets about all this the CC may be a bit more accomodating too. Regards, Bart. __________________________ Bart Busschots bart.busschots@physics.org