[ David Barrett ]
Apparently he's found a free one which the CC are happy with... more on this later (I'll need to dig up some information).
That'll be AMaViS (www.amavis.org), I imagine. It's supposed to be quite good.
I've always said the CC would be put on the defensive with six people attending, not with our choice of four. However, I believe that the choice of attendees is VERY important, for these will be the people, at a VERY important meeting, putting across our position.
It is important. Of course it it. But between the people we're talking about, there is not much to choose. So let who wants to go, go. It would be best to keep the number to three, I think. So let's get this out of the way - I would suggest the Chair, the Vice-Chair, and the ex-Sysadm. Objections?
Noted. However, you are far more technically competent than anyone else confirmed going... so if technical questions do arise, they'll all be fielded at (or redirected to) you.
Fair enough.
We will all also have to counter any arguments they have against us. These will probably be issues of trust, but to *gain* their trust we must impress them with our greatness.
We're not really that great. We've been nothing but trouble, from their point of view. Our view of the society is wildly different from theirs. Man, I wish that mailbombing thing hadn't happened.
It might be worth forwarding my policy documents to JK - he might be able to use some of the work I did on those. Although I think it's a good idea to send them to JK (good idea), what could he use them for? I'm not clear on this.
I'm referring to the network policy document, mainly. It might be useful in planning the firewall.
So. Let's try to keep our goal in sight: MiNDS, up and running as an entity approved by the college, in whatever form that eventually is. We also want to get some sort of communal machine up and running by Fair's Day.
It would be nice, but with all of the hassle with the new registrants coming in real soon, I'd be surprised if the authorities involved will have time for us. I guess we'll just have to chase things up. Do drop the CC a mail - the next month is going to be a very busy period for them, so we should try to get together with them early.
Have you read the emails on the list with regards to the access level to the new machine? We've pretty much got everything back, except insecure access from inside the college (so no telnet or FTP, but we can SSH and SFTP; limited to CS subnets though).
I consider that pretty crippling. Especially since I'm a Maths student. ;o) But like I said, we'll work with what we've got.
And while we may not all be friends, let's try to keep this professional. I would have thought that we're all friends... I'd say that's where some of the problems lie. We're less afraid to say what we feel like on the list.
Perhaps. In that case, perhaps I should suggest that people forget we are friends, for the purposes of keeping the list in moderate tone. ;o)
BTW, is Commie Dave still on the list?
I unsusbscribed him last night, while making sure that the list archives were private. I was also horrified to find that the su president & webmaster have been bombarded with all the recent mails. Sorry about that, if you're even reading these mails anymore. Someone should probably ask to see if we should unsubscribe those two. Our current mail traffic probably isn't very relevant to them anymore. Cian -- "There's one thing that computing teaches you, and that's that there's no point to remembering *everything*. Being able to *find* things is what's important." - Dan, Microserfs