[Minds-disaster] My 7978980989234421862 roubles: Douglas Adams was a very limited writer
Dear List People, I have read 78 of these drivel messages (don't take it personally, but that was alot of drivel) Quite a few people were very rude, and that saddens me. Where is the Sanity? Not often enough do we ask, where is the Sanity? Sorry, I have been reading GWB policies all morning and my language now reflects his. I am writing to point out that I do not in fact receive the list and I would like to make a formal complaint that the rest of the committee are clearly conspiring to form a monopoly (or, more accurately an oligopoly) of centralised MiNDS> power. Dave sent these messages to me so that I would not be left out of the loop. Dave does that kind of thing for me very often. That is the act of a friend, and not a clique. In my non university life I spend alot of time fighting with cliques. I know we are not one. The four of us are friends and if it is not a good thing that the central committee are friends, then I have irreconcilable differences in my world view to yours. I fear that in the new term, we will not all get along so well. Water may conciously be under the bridge but bad blood may still linger. But in the interests of transperancy, and as an admirer of the utilitarian philosophy of John Stuart Mills, and as someone who knows that Scandinavian government styles work, I will now fully inform the committee of a secret meeting I held with the Chairperson/President, Mr David Barrett on Friday August 17th, 2001. It commenced on Grafton St, Dublin 1 at 13.35, directly outside the branch of Game.
PS- a further point, I am not going to apologise for the axe, as I feel
Kev, In general I have to agree with the majority of what you said, the Bickering must stop (which it has). But I could not help but feel that I was the butt of the majority of the jokes/insults (hard to decide what to make of the tone) in your email. I had planned on not responding at all but the PS just got me. I cannot just let something this big go. that
it was a good idea which again had much explicit support. Furthermore I did not and to this day do not believe that certain parties were being constructive. I can only assume you mean me and Gareth here and have to take extreme offense by this.
If I was not being constructive what was I then? I made time to come to your AGM because I wanted to HELP ensure that the MiNDS> constitution was perfect(as was Gar). I can only assume that if I was not constructive I was obstructive or destructive. Do you honestly think I have the time to go around going to AGMs to anoy people? I thought you knew me better than that. I have put alot of time and effort into MiNDS>. I have gone through all this years problems with the society and never missed an meeting or passed up an opportunity to help out. It hurts me deeply when people throuw this back in my face and accuse me of comming to an AGM just to cause trouble. If you feel I should not take offense by this then please tell me how I should feel. (Also I feel you are doing Gar a grave injustice too but he can't even deffend himself) I Love MiNDS> and very much want to see MiNDS> do very well next year and want to be a part of it but if people don't want my help then I guess I should learn to take a hint. Also, at no point did I ever stop considering the MiNDS> crew firends. Yes, the arguments got heated but that was not because we weren't friends that was because we all wanted to do what was best for MiNDS>. Just to reiterate, I would very much like to consider you all friends and hope the reverse is true too. I do however feel very strongly that I am owed an appology for the AGM. Good luck to all those doing exams and see you all soon, Bart. __________________________ Bart Busschots bart.busschots@physics.org http://www.voyager.8m.net
1. I will not hear any bad words re Doug Adams, the man suffered from crippling writer's block, and consequently produced a hell of a lot of quality and very little quantity. 2. "Where is the Sanity?" It was acquired by AOL-Time-Warner in '00. 3. "Dave does that kind of
thing for me very often. That is the act of a friend, and not a clique...The four of us are friends and if it is not a good thing that the central committee are friends, then I have irreconcilable differences in my world view to yours."
Hear Hear. Well said. I think in review of the arguments we will notice that they all came about from misunderstandings and a lack of communication.
I fear that in the new term, we will not all get along so well. Water may conciously be under the bridge but bad blood may still linger.
This is something we're going to have to work very hard on, probably our greatest challenge for the coming year, to be honest. We could call it The Silent Enemy, and smite it with lightsabers and beer and stuff. (In particular, beer)
We decided that the immeadiate goal of the PRO was to increase membership figures. We decided on many tactics, all brilliantly conceived. Possible Events and services include:
I demand that one of these events (in this example the parachute jump) be called The Darragh Sherwin Memorial Parachute Jump. I have recently discovered, much to my surprise, that Darragh has a sense of humour about the whole thing. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised to discover that Darragh has a sense of humour! ;-) (please note the joke in bad taste but still funny, and the fact that I'm pointing it out, and that any flames should be directed to my arse!)
they will be given a document stating their responsibilites to the University rules, HEANET guidlines, and ultimately the laws of the Irish Republic.
I don't see any point in this, people will not read them, they will bin them.
The document will also state that the photo will be used in future for our websites and so that we can evaluate and judge you. New members will sign the document and date it.
And all complaints should be referred to my arse, written on the back of a $50 note.
These are all suggestions. Possible other suggestion is that we have machines set up to have Quake offs between the "Public" and Phil, who is a very private man. Defeating Phil brings a cash reward and a free membership.
Good idea.
The goal that the PRO and the President decided on was that in the first weeks of the new term, MiNDS> would be the most active and present society on the NUIM Campus. First years in particular will not be able to avoid us, and our dynamic prescence. We aim to not really have to explain what we do to them by the time Fairs Day comes round.
Poster idea: Minds, more than just a chat room. (p.s. we have a chat room) It could be followed up with: Minds, more than just a development environment, it's also got a chat room. (p.s. we have a development environment)
It is my personal opinion, though not the opinion of the society neccesarily, that the NerveCenter project headed by Aidan Delaney, in conjunction with the President and possibly my father, Cian, will be a vital part of MiNDS> future services. To allow decisions to be made quickly, to allow a focus to remain present in the project and to get a fine product at the end, responsibilty should be handed over entirely to them. No meddling from us pe0ns.
Fair nuffski, how do Aid and Cian feel about this?
I, along with Des and Phil, who have explicitly stated such to me, would hope that all this bickering can be left behind in the new term. We are ambitious for this society but it will come to nothing if we don't move together as a team. This committee has worked very well in my opinion, in the most difficult of circumstances, and we should attempt to further the lifetime of this committee as much as is possible while still bringing in new blood.
Amen.
As Pascal, that faithful, noble philophosopher and mathametician once said, "I lay it down as fact that if all men knew what others say of them, there would not be four friends in the world."
Pretty good for a French guy, you have to admit.
And Jon Paul Sartre said that hell was being locked in a room for enternity with your friends, but all their mates were French. Kevin has brought that most glorious of gifts to the table, reason. ===== _________________________________________________________________ Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! _________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
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