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[Redbrick-birthday] Postpone Meeting until Tuesday 21st?
by Karl Podesta 14 Jun '05

14 Jun '05

Hey up, We suggested a meeting for tomorrow night (Tuesday 14th), but it clashes with a SAGE-IE talk! (http://www.sage-ie.org/meetings.html) Is it ok to postpone it until next Tuesday (21st)? If people still want to meet up to chat about it tomorrow that's cool. Just that myself/singer/others(?) won't be there unfortunately. In the meantime, John art_wolf had a good suggestion on the wiki, so I changed the page to stick "everything we've got" onto it. So that could be something to get us started - we can just all edit away on that for the moment! So feel free to write stuff, or contribute! etc. (Don't be afraid to change or delete things - but probably best to just add things mostly, seeing as we don't have a whole pile at the moment). Karl -- Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No. -- What was the question again?, "The Springfield Files"

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Re: [Redbrick-birthday] Getting started on the book
by Paul Gargan 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

On Fri, Jun 03, 2005 at 11:47:12AM +0100, Bernard Mckeever wrote: > Hey, > Has an editorial team been elected for the book yet? I'd be happy to > book meeting rooms or whatever is needed to co-ordinate the > publication. > > Regards, > Bernard (I'm cc'ing the Birthday list) As far as I know, potential candidates haven't put their names forward yet. How about it, people? Any takers? *tumbleweed* -- "Relax Paul, I'm your friend. I'm only dancing with you."

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Re: [Redbrick-birthday] Getting started on the book
by Bernard Mckeever 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hey, Has an editorial team been elected for the book yet? I'd be happy to book meeting rooms or get whatever is needed to co-ordinate the publication. Regards, Bernard On 6/3/05, Bernard Mckeever <dregin(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, > Has an editorial team been elected for the book yet? I'd be happy to > book meeting rooms or whatever is needed to co-ordinate the > publication. > > Regards, > Bernard > > On 4/22/05, Paul Gargan <gliceas(a)redbrick.dcu.ie> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 05:51:57PM +0100, dramaq(a)redbrick.dcu.ie wrote: > > > My only main problem with this suggestion is How do we decide who gets to > > > be in the book? people could end up feeling snubbed etc etc. And its not > > > like we can include everyone. Basically where would we draw the line with > > > this? > > > > This is assuming we have enough text + photos to fill a book. Too litttle > > content might be a more likely outcome than too much. I hope not, but we > > shouldn't discount the possibility. > > > > Assuming we do have too much ... we need an editorial team. Plain and simple. > > What they say goes. It's the only way, imho, you could run this - somebody > > has to decide what's in, what's out. The point of contention then becomes > > who gets to be on the editorial team? > > > > I suggest ppl volunteer, bearing in mind that (a) it'd help to have an idea > > what you're at, and (b) your decisions may be criticised. We then have a > > vote (shell script or whatever), leave it running for a week. Elect the > > editorial team, and then all agree to abide by their decisions. > > > > -- > > "Relax Paul, I'm your friend. I'm only dancing with you." > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redbrick-birthday mailing list > > Redbrick-birthday(a)lists.redbrick.dcu.ie > > http://lists.redbrick.dcu.ie/mailman/listinfo/redbrick-birthday > > >

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Re: [Redbrick-birthday] Getting started on the book
by Justin Moran 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

> Assuming we do have too much ... we need an editorial team. Plain and > simple. What they say goes. Spot on that chap. Most sensible suggestion all day. We need a couple of people to take ownership of this and do it. Having written stuff by Committee before the most important lesson I learnt was not to write stuff by Committee. Someone has to be anchoring. They don't have to be providing any material themselves but they have to take responsibility for collating contributions and the like. So long as this person or persons pays attention to the views of the people on the subscription list and the current Committee we should be willing to go along. Remember, the book is ONE of the ideas for the tenth birthday celebrations, albeit possibly the most comprehensive one. Someone needs to start thinking about the function and what is planned, someone else might want to look into tracking down past members, especially Committee members, to let them know about it as many might not know. If I can make a suggestion we need a couple of working groups doing what is necessary on the various proposals: Book Function Fundraising (Auction of RB memorobilia at function?) etc. and bring these people together every month or couple of months because I assure you, the organisation of this whole thing is not going to be done over the email. One person needs to anchor each of those and people can tie into any or none of those groups and take on specific bits of work. In the interests of transparency all reports and notes and emails of those groups can be kept here so that future generations of archivists can wonder if so much organising was necessary. :) Unlike Doc, I think advertising could be useful in paying for it but I think we should be very targetted in our search for advertising to avoid doomed dotcom companies appearing and the ads should be more along the lines of: 'Sinn Fein wishes Redbrick a Happy Tenth Birthday and congratulates the members past and present on their accomplishments.' Or better yet, those clubs and socs who have their sites on our server, the SU, the SPC etc. And one last general point, perhaps unsurprisingly considering the nature of the society and the fact that most people on this list are tech people there hasn't been a lot of focus on the other stuff, both social events and the non-techy community and where are they now. Is mise, Justin God grant me the serenity to accept The things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Redbrick-birthday] Getting started on the book
by Karl Podesta 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Hiyas, What do you all think is the best way to get started on the Anniversary book? (1) Decide on a structure here, then farm off bits to people (while also accepting any random things that other people write in the meantime) or (2) Make a "call for submission", and set a first deadline on when stuff has to be in, and to be read/reviewed by people on the list. ? I think the "call for submission" thing, while formal, mightn't prompt as much action. Whereas if we provisionally assign people with bits of the book, we all might feel compelled to write stuff (and at the same time with this option, allow anyone who randomly writes something or comes up with an idea, for it to go in too). I don't know if we need an editor(s) at this stage; this list could probably do? Articles/Sections: - "Overview" section: a brief bit about what Redbrick does/provides atm. - "History" section: an overall history in straight readable form - "Generations" section: 2-page spread for each gen? In 'collage' style.. - "Encyclopedia" section: this could be quite bulky actually, hmm - "Yearbook" section: like magluby's photo site? Drusilla suggested this! - "Corporate" section: What redbrick members are doing in businesses - "Academic" section: What redbrick members are doing in academia - "Projects" section: What cool projects or things have been done Maybe I should phone up some book editors and check out costs (in case this yoke gets too big!), or phone UCD L&H or something :-) [ Please pick the structure apart, or add up stuff you think should also be in the book ] Kp -- Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No. -- What was the question again?, "The Springfield Files"

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Re: [Redbrick-birthday] Getting started on the book
by Justin Moran 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

--- David Murphy <david.murphy(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 4/22/05, Dave O Connor <doc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No, they should go ahead and do whatever they think should be in > the > > book, and fuck the begrudgers. > > Sure, so long as it's called 'Karl's book of what karl thinks > matters' > and he pays for it himself. Actually, I'd take a couple of copies of that for people I know called Karl. Look, this isn't rocket science here. Karl has put forward a suggestion for something to be included in the book. Paul, Doc and I think, and I so far have indicated they think it's a good idea. Dave is opposed to it. Fair enough. Now, if every decision on the book is going to be subject to a referendum of the membership we might as well close up shop now. I think singer has posted on the boards indicating people are working on such a book and asking them to contribute or suggest ideas. Hopefully material will come from that. In the meantime I think there is no harm on working away on Karl's idea. If Dave is opposed to it and perhaps wants to keep his name out of it then that is regrettable but obviously his choice. While he might not want Redbrick taking credit for his computing skills, arguably Redbrick would not want to take credit for his interpersonal skills as so amply demonstrated on this thread. So, lets push ahead with Karl's idea, continue through the boards and this group to get suggestions for items of inclusion and start allocating specific jobs of work to specific people otherwise we'll become a wee talking shop. Is mise, Justin Moran God grant me the serenity to accept The things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[Redbrick-birthday] Reference from CA
by Karl Podesta 22 Apr '05

22 Apr '05

Finally found this. Not sure if we can use it. But interesting reading anyway - many of you have probably not seen it, and I reckon it's ok to email it around at this stage. If we were going to use it, we'd have to ask Alan for permission, etc. (I imagine you could have an entire page or 2 pages with endorsements from CA staff if you wanted). Anyway, just throwing out ideas. Kp ----- Forwarded message from Nothingman <spock(a)redbrick.dcu.ie> ----- Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:53:03 +0100 From: Nothingman <spock(a)redbrick.dcu.ie> To: committee(a)redbrick.dcu.ie, admins(a)redbrick.dcu.ie Subject: Reference I have a letter in my hand from Alan Smeaton: "To whom it may concern. It is with pleasure that I write this note of support for DCU's Networking Society, Redbrick. Redbrick is on of the really huge success stories in DCU. EVidence for its popularity and size, and a catalogue of the services it provides for its members, can be found elsewhere but I write this note to add some interpretation and depth to the raw facts about the society. Redbrick and its services, the coursees it runs for its members, and the support it provides for students, is a tremendous asset to University life. In the school of Computer APllications, through their academic programmes, students get exposed to, and learn about the theoretical aspects of computing and they learn to put some of that into practice through their assignement work. Redbrick, however, procies a completely new dimension to the student experience. Their courses and the learning environments that redbrick provides are in an area of technical competence that is outside the realm of a formal University-level academic qualification, but it provides those students with a training experience that makes them very employable. Courses in system administration in a Linux environment would never form part of an academic programme but for those students who have taken part in such redbrick activities their skills set is now quite enrishched as a result. What makes this even more admirable is that all these efforts are provided by Redbrick members, for other redbrick members, so there is a huge sharing and transfer of knowledge going on within redbrick. And to cap it all, as if that wasnt' enough, the redbrick society provide all these facilities and resources not just for students in CA, but for students across the campus. If the University wanted to try and emulate the facilities that Redbrick provies to such members we would not do so easily. I have had some dealings with the society as HEad of School in terms of providing rooms for courses etc., and have always found dealing with the soiety to be mature and respectful. I try to accede to reasonalbe requests from them for facilities, for resources, and even for equipments, and I would have no hesitation in supporting them wherever I can. In summary I am delighted to state that I believe that redbrick is a wonderful asset to the University, that we are very licky that it is as successful as it is, andd that I hope their present success will continue long into the future. I believe this view would also be supported by all my colleagues in the staff in this school. Alan F Smeaton Professor of Computing" ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No. -- What was the question again?, "The Springfield Files"

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[Redbrick-birthday] Re: Let's do this by the book!
by Brian Scanlan 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:39:28AM +0100, Karl Podesta wrote: > Also, there are rough details here: > http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~cammy/twiki/bin/view.pl/Rbwiki/RedbrickAnnivers… > http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~kpodesta/anniversary/ I still like the idea of a book. :) > There is a loose plan to have a big awards dinner (blacktie or not), > at somewhere like the Guinness Storehouse, but Carolie (bootie) made a > fine point that us redbrickers might be better off with just a fancy > bar place (same venue?), and not a sit down meal. I wouldn't want to have pat-on-the-back "best brickie" awards at the event - Just a few speakers, some cake, and lots of networking :) These can occur whether or not there's a meal. I think we should aim for a high-profile event, with the book launched and the collage present. Also in attendance could be old servers, some sponsors, media types, people from companies who employ brickies, etc. I think that the current committee shouldn't waste an enormous amount of time on the parts of the event that cater for the alumni - the event should be used by the present committee to showcase the society and services as it is at present, and they should be given ample opportunity to do so. The AGM will be at a similar time of year, this should be taken into consideration when planning the event. > My webpage is crappy - can we make a mailing list? > (and then continue the discussion from there) Bah, can't we use an AJAX-powered RSS-feed-available wiki? Oh, ok then... http://lists.redbrick.dcu.ie/mailman/listinfo/redbrick-birthday Brian. -- "Immigrants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them."

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[Redbrick-birthday] Re: Let's do this by the book!
by roro＠redbrick.dcu.ie 15 Apr '05

15 Apr '05

I'm liking the ideas people... they found fab.. can't wait to get the ball rolling.. must see if i can dig out pics etc from somewhere... let me know what i can.. laters rana, god bless redbrick...

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[Redbrick-birthday] [maigh_nuad@yahoo.com: We meet again Podesta]
by Karl Podesta 14 Apr '05

14 Apr '05

----- Forwarded message from Justin Moran <maigh_nuad(a)yahoo.com> ----- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 04:12:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Justin Moran <maigh_nuad(a)yahoo.com> Subject: We meet again Podesta To: kpodesta(a)redbrick.dcu.ie Karl, a chara, Just wanted to let you know I'd like to help out with some of this planning for the tenth anniversary stuff. I'm not sure what stuff, if any, I saved but Cecily has some material anyway. As for suggestions, I think the idea of printing the Redbrick Encyclopedia is a good one but it MUST BE EDITED and also updated, in particular some of my more stupidly written entries. The printed book should, as much as possible, be image driven. People don't want acres of text, they want pictures, posters, spectacle and blood. Is mise, Justin God grant me the serenity to accept The things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Hello. I'm Leonard Nimoy. The following tale of alien encounters is true. And by true, I mean false. It's all lies. But they're entertaining lies. And in the end, isn't that the real truth? The answer is: No. -- What was the question again?, "The Springfield Files"

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