to the central courtyard of TCD Dublin, on College Green. We ate Marks =
and Spenser chilled foods for lunch, I ate pasta fashioned in the key of =
a "Ney York Deli" and Dave ate an egg and cress vegetable salad. With =
both our hungers sated, we desserted on a kind of chocolate patisserie =
that was both deliciously flaky and delightfully sweet. Of course, the =
opinion on food is entirely subjective but recorded here merely for =
completeness. Pigeons hassled us at length and Dave's diversionary =
tactics merely increased their numbers. Seemingly, they swarm around =
someone who throws them a morsel. We shall know in future.
We made up nicknames for participants in the MiNDS> society, though =
privacy and discretion should keep them under wraps. We also discussed =
the situration with the MiNDS> machines. We are secure in our belief =
that by the time Annual Fairs Day graces us again we will be providing =
our core services.
The hot topic of discussion on this mailing list of course now seems to =
be moot. The meeting will go ahead without any of us, and instead Fat =
John Keating will be our representative. As you can see, our nicknames =
were not very imaginative.
Only in Toronto or Vancouver could it be described as ironic, but all =
the same, one can't help but smile. The drivel, as drivel so often is, =
was over nothing.
Dave didn't like me smiling at his and others expense, so I stopped.
Then we discussed my responsibilities in MiNDS>. Mr Barrett feels that I =
am more important than merely the poster boy, and he believes that the =
word public means public, everyone, both on the committee and elsewhere, =
and not merely people some MiNDS> members deem to be the public.
I think we both feel that the word public does not denote some kind of =
illusionary and psuedo-mythical class of persons, similar to the modern =
(little?) undergraduates concept of the nebulous, vague, and eventually =
non-existent working class. Rather, it a simple word meaning those that =
are not private. In the effort of destroying all concepts of cliques and =
monopolies I write this email, which systematically destroys a private =
conversation and makes everyone a member of the public. Forgive me for =
my philosophical motivation, but I fear it would be lost on everyone but =
a few if it were not explicity stated.=20
We decided that the immeadiate goal of the PRO was to increase =
membership figures.
We decided on many tactics, all brilliantly conceived.
Possible Events and services include:
Sponsored Parachute Jump
Is Maynooth Hot or Not Website
2nd Annual Dion Table Quiz
Regular, meaning 7 in ambition, and not less than 5 in effect, Lectures
HTML Classes
Regular, meaning 2 + Socities awards night where we will win, Socials
Quazar
Bowling
Karting
Paintball
End of year public (meaning eveyone who is not private) Dating Game =
featuring the hottest
Early barbeque
Late Barbeque
Poker Classic in aid of parachute jump fund
All these are suggestions, many have to be passed by the events manager, =
Rory Dion Doonican Donegan.
For Fairs Day we will roll out our new logo, a template design of =
poster, a massive flyer and poster advertising campaign, the almost =
completed cd, with black and white sleeves, free crisps AND lollys for =
members, computers demonstrating our new hot site and our list of =
intentions for the year.
Everyone who joins will have a digital photograph taken, they will be =
given a document stating their responsibilites to the University rules, =
HEANET guidlines, and ultimately the laws of the Irish Republic.
If not already included, the current form of the constitution of MiNDS =
should be added to the disk contents. Any disclaimers regarding the =
finality of the constitution as a document should be explicity stated.
The document will also state that the photo will be used in future for =
our websites and so that we can evaluate and judge you.
New members will sign the document and date it.
These are all suggestions.
Possible other suggestion is that we have machines set up to have Quake =
offs between the "Public" and Phil, who is a very private man. Defeating =
Phil brings a cash reward and a free membership.
Other plan might be to have live music to attract peoples attention.=20
The goal that the PRO and the President decided on was that in the first =
weeks of the new term, MiNDS> would be the most active and present =
society on the NUIM Campus. First years in particular will not be able =
to avoid us, and our dynamic prescence. We aim to not really have to =
explain what we do to them by the time Fairs Day comes round.
It is my personal opinion, though not the opinion of the society =
neccesarily, that the NerveCenter project headed by Aidan Delaney, in =
conjunction with the President and possibly my father, Cian, will be a =
vital part of MiNDS> future services. To allow decisions to be made =
quickly, to allow a focus to remain present in the project and to get a =
fine product at the end, responsibilty should be handed over entirely to =
them. No meddling from us pe0ns.
Des' map idea is intruiging and I hope he can set that up. We discussed =
the great potential for that project as a web program.
We also discussed the obvious resentment that had developed between =
people who once were friends. They may have been friends but I think a =
mixture of pride and not enough concern has led to a rift. I, along with =
Des and Phil, who have explicitly stated such to me, would hope that all =
this bickering can be left behind in the new term. We are ambitious for =
this society but it will come to nothing if we don't move together as a =
team. This committee has worked very well in my opinion, in the most =
difficult of circumstances, and we should attempt to further the =
lifetime of this committee as much as is possible while still bringing =
in new blood.
At this stage we discussed how much money we had both amassed, how great =
the Department of Foreign Affairs was but unfortunately how I would =
probably be leaving to take up a job in marketing with VISA. That is a =
kind of public relations I guess.
So, now that it is transparent I hope you all feel more secure.
The private has been decimated in favour of the public and look how =
boring it was!
Worse still it would become if I were to continue. As Pascal, that =
faithful, noble philophosopher and mathametician once said, "I lay it =
down as fact that if all men knew what others say of them, there would =
not be four friends in the world."
Pretty good for a French guy, you have to admit.
=20
I guess I'll email blindly to this address next time a fight starts.
I will see you all in September.
Kevin
PS- a further point, I am not going to apologise for the axe, as I feel =
that it was a good idea which again had much explicit support. =
Furthermore I did not and to this day do not believe that certain =
parties were being constructive.
The meetings must be a more mature place and one way we could enforce =
that is through the use of a William Golding like conch, or shell. Only =
the person holding the conch or surrogate conch object (copy of Free BDS =
perhaps?) can have the floor. The conch or surrogate conch would be =
distibuted by a respected and impartial MiNDS> member (Des perhaps) =
based on a first in, first out hands up basis.
The perpetuation of the meeting style that has been established would be =
not only irritating but ultimately damaging.
Any other suggestions, do feel free to make them.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dear List People,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have read 78 of these drivel messages (don't take =
it=20
personally, but that was alot of drivel)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Quite a few people were very rude, and that saddens =
me. Where=20
is the Sanity?<BR>Not often enough do we ask, where is the Sanity? =
Sorry, I have=20
been reading GWB policies all morning and my language now reflects=20
his.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I am writing to point out that I do not in fact =
receive the=20
list and I would like to make a formal complaint that the rest of the =
committee=20
are clearly conspiring to form a monopoly (or, more accurately an =
oligopoly) of=20
centralised MiNDS> power. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dave sent these messages to me so that I would not =
be left out=20
of the loop. Dave does that kind of thing for me very often. That is the =
act of=20
a friend, and not a clique. In my non university life I spend alot of =
time=20
fighting with cliques. I know we are not one. The four of us are friends =
and if=20
it is not a good thing that the central committee are friends, then I =
have=20
irreconcilable differences in my world view to yours. I fear that in the =
new=20
term, we will not all get along so well. Water may conciously be under =
the=20
bridge but bad blood may still linger. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>But in the interests of transperancy, and as an =
admirer of the=20
utilitarian philosophy of John Stuart Mills, and as someone who knows =
that=20
Scandinavian government styles work, I will now fully inform the =
committee of a=20
secret meeting I held with the Chairperson/President, Mr David Barrett =
on Friday=20
August 17th, 2001. It commenced on Grafton St, Dublin 1 at 13.35, =
directly=20
outside the branch of Game.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>From there, with small talk as our accompniement, we =
travelled=20
by foot to the central courtyard of TCD Dublin, on College Green. We ate =
Marks=20
and Spenser chilled foods for lunch, I ate pasta fashioned in the key of =
a "Ney=20
York Deli" and Dave ate an egg and cress vegetable salad. With both our =
hungers=20
sated, we desserted on a kind of chocolate patisserie that was both =
deliciously=20
flaky and delightfully sweet. Of course, the opinion on food is entirely =
subjective but recorded here merely for completeness. Pigeons hassled us =
at=20
length and Dave's diversionary tactics merely increased their numbers.=20
Seemingly, they swarm around someone who throws them a morsel. We shall =
know in=20
future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We made up nicknames for participants in the =
MiNDS>=20
society, though privacy and discretion should keep them under wraps. We =
also=20
discussed the situration with the MiNDS> machines. We are secure in =
our=20
belief that by the time Annual Fairs Day graces us again we will be =
providing=20
our core services.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The hot topic of discussion on this mailing list of =
course now=20
seems to be moot. The meeting will go ahead without any of us, and =
instead Fat=20
John Keating will be our representative. As you can see, our nicknames =
were not=20
very imaginative.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Only in Toronto or Vancouver could it be described =
as ironic,=20
but all the same, one can't help but smile. The drivel, as drivel so =
often is,=20
was over nothing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Dave didn't like me smiling at his and others =
expense, so I=20
stopped.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Then we discussed my responsibilities in MiNDS>. =
Mr Barrett=20
feels that I am more important than merely the poster boy, and he =
believes that=20
the word public means public, everyone, both on the committee and =
elsewhere, and=20
not merely people some MiNDS> members deem to be the =
public.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I think we both feel that the word public does not =
denote some=20
kind of illusionary and psuedo-mythical class of persons, similar to the =
modern=20
(little?) undergraduates concept of the nebulous, vague, and eventually=20
non-existent working class. Rather, it a simple word meaning those that =
are not=20
private. In the effort of destroying all concepts of cliques and =
monopolies I=20
write this email, which systematically destroys a private conversation =
and makes=20
everyone a member of the public. Forgive me for my philosophical =
motivation, but=20
I fear it would be lost on everyone but a few if it were not explicity =
stated.=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We decided that the immeadiate goal of the PRO was =
to increase=20
membership figures.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We decided on many tactics, all brilliantly=20
conceived.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Possible Events and services include:<BR>Sponsored =
Parachute=20
Jump</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Is Maynooth Hot or Not Website</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>2nd Annual Dion Table Quiz</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regular, meaning 7 in ambition, and not less than 5 =
in effect,=20
Lectures</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>HTML Classes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Regular, meaning 2 + Socities awards night where we =
will win,=20
Socials</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Quazar</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bowling</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Karting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Paintball</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>End of year public (meaning eveyone who is not =
private) Dating=20
Game featuring the hottest</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Early barbeque</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Late Barbeque</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Poker Classic in aid of parachute jump =
fund</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT size=3D2>All these are suggestions, many have to be =
passed by the=20
events manager, Rory Dion Doonican Donegan.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>For Fairs Day we will roll out our new logo, a =
template design=20
of poster, a massive flyer and poster advertising campaign, the almost =
completed=20
cd, with black and white sleeves, free crisps AND lollys for members, =
computers=20
demonstrating our new hot site and our list of intentions for the=20
year.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Everyone who joins will have a digital photograph =
taken, they=20
will be given a document stating their responsibilites to the University =
rules,=20
HEANET guidlines, and ultimately the laws of the Irish =
Republic.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If not already included, the current form of the =
constitution=20
of MiNDS should be added to the disk contents. Any disclaimers regarding =
the=20
finality of the constitution as a document should be explicity=20
stated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The document will also state that the photo will be =
used in=20
future for our websites and so that we can evaluate and judge =
you.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>New members will sign the document and date =
it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>These are all suggestions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Possible other suggestion is that we have machines =
set up to=20
have Quake offs between the "Public" and Phil, who is a very private =
man.=20
Defeating Phil brings a cash reward and a free membership.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Other plan might be to have live music to attract =
peoples=20
attention. <BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The goal that the PRO and the President decided on =
was that in=20
the first weeks of the new term, MiNDS> would be the most active and =
present=20
society on the NUIM Campus. First years in particular will not be able =
to avoid=20
us, and our dynamic prescence. We aim to not really have to explain what =
we do=20
to them by the time Fairs Day comes round.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It is my personal opinion, though not the opinion of =
the=20
society neccesarily, that the NerveCenter project headed by Aidan =
Delaney, in=20
conjunction with the President and possibly my father, Cian, will be a =
vital=20
part of MiNDS> future services. To allow decisions to be made =
quickly, to=20
allow a focus to remain present in the project and to get a fine product =
at the=20
end, responsibilty should be handed over entirely to them. No meddling =
from us=20
pe0ns.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Des' map idea is intruiging and I hope he can set =
that up. We=20
discussed the great potential for that project as a web =
program.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>We also discussed the obvious resentment that had =
developed=20
between people who once were friends. They may have been friends but I =
think a=20
mixture of pride and not enough concern has led to a rift. I, along with =
Des and=20
Phil, who have explicitly stated such to me, would hope that all this =
bickering=20
can be left behind in the new term. We are ambitious for this society =
but it=20
will come to nothing if we don't move together as a team. This committee =
has=20
worked very well in my opinion, in the most difficult of circumstances, =
and we=20
should attempt to further the lifetime of this committee as much as is =
possible=20
while still bringing in new blood.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>At this stage we discussed how much money we had =
both amassed,=20
how great the Department of Foreign Affairs was but unfortunately how I =
would=20
probably be leaving to take up a job in marketing with VISA. That is a =
kind of=20
public relations I guess.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So, now that it is transparent I hope you all feel =
more=20
secure.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The private has been decimated in favour of the =
public and=20
look how boring it was!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Worse still it would become if I were to continue. =
As Pascal,=20
that faithful, noble philophosopher and mathametician once said, "I lay =
it down=20
as fact that if all men knew what others say of them, there would not be =
four=20
friends in the world."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Pretty good for a French guy, you have to =
admit.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I guess I'll email blindly to this address next time =
a fight=20
starts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I will see you all in September.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Kevin</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS- a further point, I am not going to =
apologise for the=20
axe, as I feel that it was a good idea which again had much explicit =
support.=20
Furthermore I did not and to this day do not believe that certain =
parties were=20
being constructive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The meetings must be a more mature place and one way =
we could=20
enforce that is through the use of a William Golding like conch, or =
shell. Only=20
the person holding the conch or surrogate conch object (copy of Free BDS =
perhaps?) can have the floor. The conch or surrogate conch would be =
distibuted=20
by a respected and impartial MiNDS> member (Des perhaps) based on a =
first in,=20
first out hands up basis.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The perpetuation of the meeting style that has been=20
established would be not only irritating but ultimately =
damaging.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Any other suggestions, do feel free to make =
them.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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