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Re: [Minds-disaster] Met with Stephen Brown
by David Barrett 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

> --- David Barrett <mindschair(a)eircom.net> wrote: > > Another one of the rules that the CC wanted was no > > student root access. NONE. > > That seems absolutely fair to me. > If we want to make serious changes to minds, we can do > it while supervised by James Cotter. That is probably > the most sensible suggestion ever made by not-so-techy people. Erm, it's our machine. They wanted root access barred from everyone who wasn't staff. Not even with JC's supervision. That's how I read it, which is freaking nonsense as it's our machine. Unfortunately, it is nonsense we may have to learn to live with. David

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Re: [Minds-disaster] Met with Stephen Brown
by andy fatbastard 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

--- David Barrett <mindschair(a)eircom.net> wrote: > Another one of the rules that the CC wanted was no > student root access. NONE. That seems absolutely fair to me. If we want to make serious changes to minds, we can do it while supervised by James Cotter. That is probably the most sensible suggestion ever made by not-so-techy people. ===== _________________________________________________________________ Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! _________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Minds-disaster] Met with Stephen Brown
by David Barrett 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Another one of the rules that the CC wanted was no student root access. NONE. The CS Dept are trying to get imaginative on this. In the end we'll probably have our machine sitting behind a firewall connecting to the CS Dept. On the plus side, Minds has a guest account on Redbrick now, so I won't need to track down Siobhan if I want to get Cian/Meaigs :). David Barrett

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[Minds-disaster] Met with Stephen Brown
by David Barrett 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Myself, Siobhan McKenna and Bart Busscots met with Stephen Brown today. He obviously mentioned that he was in support of us. It looks like they're going with the Trinity Netsoc rules as a proposal... no outside college access. Obviously, if that means no TELNET access the Computer Center can bugger off (my opinion) and we'll have to get an outside host. (By the way, if we didn't have telnet access we wouldn't be allowed have FTP access either) He is going with the Trinity rules as they are the strictest in existence, and if they have a problem with *them*, well then damn. It also means no Clubs and Socs webpages will be viewable from outside the college, so we may need to host them outside soon... perhaps on nuimsu.com? I don't know, I'll need to look into it. This is because it would associate the college with these pages/offer a service to nonstudents. We were also told that it wasn't just minds.cs.may.ie that was the problem with that, but the IP addresses too. We may have CS dept ONLY access back by before Christmas, but it is more likely to happen after the holidays. The Comp Sci Dept are still fighting our case but obviously they can't go against the college. There will be some sort of "access day" next week were people can come along and take what they need off it. Another nice thing he mentioned was as they throw machines away every few years, they could donate some to Minds, and he would look into it. SETI FARM! :) David Barrett

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Re: [Minds-disaster] Met with Stephen Brown
by Phil Brennan 11 Dec '00

11 Dec '00

Well theres ways and means around everything. As long as the computer centre don't demand access to the machine, they wont know who has root. Proposing trinity rules is absolutely ridiculous. Most of the computers in trinity have restricted access, not just their netsoc server. Maybe they dont understand how essential external access is to minds. Or maybe they are just telling us to fuck off. Well, its not on. Sad people on an ego trip, achieving absolutely nothing. >From: "David Barrett" >Reply-To: To: minds-disaster(a)redbrick.dcu.ie Subject: Re: [Minds-disaster] >Met with Stephen Brown Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 23:25:57 +0000 > > > --- David Barrett wrote: > > Another one of the rules that the CC wanted >was no > > student root access. NONE. > > That seems absolutely fair to me. > > If we want to make serious changes to minds, we can do > it while >supervised by James Cotter. That is probably > the most sensible suggestion >ever made by not-so-techy people. Erm, it's our machine. They wanted root >access barred from everyone who wasn't staff. Not even with JC's >supervision. That's how I read it, which is freaking nonsense as it's our >machine. > >Unfortunately, it is nonsense we may have to learn to live with. > >David > >_______________________________________________ Minds-disaster mailing list >Minds-disaster(a)lists.Redbrick.dcu.ie >http://lists.Redbrick.dcu.ie/mailman/listinfo/minds-disaster _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

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[Minds-disaster] Harry Potter
by andy fatbastard 10 Dec '00

10 Dec '00

Hi guys, I know this has nothing to do with our disaster, but I would have posted this on minds otherwise. Please read the article on www.theregister.co.uk about Warner Bros bullying a fan re Harry Potter, and then go to www.warnerbros.com, and contact their tech support, choosing the comment option to complain about this absolute disgrace. Thanks folks. It's me against the faceless multinational! ===== _________________________________________________________________ Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries! _________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/

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Re: [Minds-disaster] The IP of Minds
by Phil Brennan 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

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Re: [Minds-disaster] The IP of Minds
by David Barrett 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

Cian <pooka(a)redbrick.dcu.ie> wrote: > > We're going to need to network Minds and another PC together to get the files > > off (or rip out the HDD... no way in hell without somesort of > > water+staticproof box), as according to Darragh the support for MSDOS disks > > isn't built into our kernel compile. The drivers are there, as far as I can > > tell, but no kernel support... and I hardly think that it's worth a kernel > > recompile *just* yet. > > > It may be possible to load a kernel module to handle msdos filesystems. Try > > kldload msdos > > Assuming that I built the modules last time I installed a kernel there, that > should dynamically add msdos filesystem support to the OS. One BIG problem there is that Kevin and Rory have a few hundred megs of files (which aren't as high a priority as getting people's assignments/society webpages off). Thanks Cian. BTW, at the meeting on Wednesday the motion of Minds paying for Kevin's paternity test was raised, but he said we were all sure what the results where going to be. :) David Barrett

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[Minds-disaster] The IP of Minds
by David Barrett 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

What IP does Minds think it is on? We're going to need to network Minds and another PC together to get the files off (or rip out the HDD... no way in hell without somesort of water+staticproof box), as according to Darragh the support for MSDOS disks isn't built into our kernel compile. The drivers are there, as far as I can tell, but no kernel support... and I hardly think that it's worth a kernel recompile *just* yet. Darragh also said that support for FreeBSD disks wasn't built into either our Solaris accounts OR into Linux 2.2.14 [the kernel I have]; so the best thing that I can see of doing with the least bother is bringing a PC in there and FTPing the bloody things off. Eek. BTW, what could be wrong with the Minds shell? It seems to be indenting the character writing point, once logged in, to the middle of the screen; and giving about 5 carriage returns each... this is in my own login, I don't think it was doing it in root. Funky screensaver though :) David Barrett

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Re: [Minds-disaster] The Source
by David Barrett 08 Dec '00

08 Dec '00

honeybear(a)cuddle.co.uk wrote: > Bart is going to talk to them to give them a neutral view so that they have= > more to go on and REAL facts rather than speculation > > it is a big story and should be covered > > however they are also going to talk to the computer centre (fingers crossed= > ) to get their side of it It would have been nice if they had of *asked* us for an interview, instead of me having to go over and demand one so it wasn't an article about Minds where Minds had no input at all. I don't even think they were at the unofficial EGM on Wednesday. Read the article on www.nuimsu.com about one of the ex-editors... it makes an enlightening read. David Barrett

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